Agendas & Minutes


May 25, 2004

PAHRUMP TOWN BOARD MEETING
BOB RUUD COMMUNITY CENTER
150 NORTH HIGHWAY 160
TUESDAY – 7:00 P.M.
MAY 25, 2004

 


Agenda

1.    Call to order.

A.    Pledge of allegiance
B.    Welcome

2.    Discussion regarding agenda items.

3.    Announcements.

4.    Public Comment (Action may not be taken on matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item (NRS 241.020(2)(C)(3).

5.    “Good News” regarding people, events, awards, celebrations or occasions that reflects positively for those within the community.

6.    Discussion, action and decision regarding grant of up to $3,000 to reimburse United Way for expenses incurred to sponsor Cinco de Mayo.  Kari Frilot

7.    Second reading of third amendment to Pahrump Town Ordinance #35 – Business License Ordinance - issues as stated in the amendment.    Town Board

8.    Discussion, action and decision regarding the imposition of an additional tax or a fixed flat fee for the sale of all fireworks sold within Nye County.  It is the intent that this additional tax/fee be imposed by the Nye County Commissioners to be allocated to the individual fire rescue service that is responsible for services in each particular area (Tonopah, Beatty, Amargosa, Pahrump, etc.).  Jeanna Howard

9.    Discussion, action and decision regarding purchase of two ambulances.  Chief Lewis

10.    Discussion, action and decision regarding Resolution #2004-07 – to modify number of signatures required on all future resolution.  Town Manager

11.    Discussion, action and decision regarding Courtyard donation fund allocation – Resolution 2004-09.  Town Manager

12.    Discussion, action and decision regarding Malibou Street truck traffic – Resolution 2004-08.   Town Manager

13.    Discussion, Action and Decision regarding the appointment by the Pahrump Town Board of a representative to the E.D.E.N. Board.  Richard Billman
 
14.    Town Manager’s Report.   

15.    Advisory Board Reports.

16.    Discussion, action and decision regarding Fall Festival by laws.

17.    Discussion, action, and decision regarding booth spaces for the Town of Pahrump at the July 4th Freedom Festival to generate revenue for Fall Festival Entertainment and Fire-Rescue and to request special permit from Nye County to sell liquor.  Jeanna Howard

18.    Consent Agenda Items:

A.    Action – approval of Town vouchers.
B.    Action – approval of regular Town Board meeting minutes of May 11, 2004.  
C.    Action – approval of ambulance billing write offs

19.    Adjournment.

POSTED IN THE PAHRUMP TOWN OFFICE, COMMUNITY CENTER, COUNTY COMPLEX AND FLOYD’S ACE HARDWARE

SPECIAL NOTE: Any member of the public who is disabled and requires accommodations or assistance at this meeting is requested to notify the Pahrump Town Office in writing, or call 775-727-5107 prior to the meeting.  Assisted listening devices are available at Town Board meetings upon request.

 


Minutes

Pahrump Town Board Meeting
May 25, 2004
Item #ll


DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING COURTYARD DONATION FUND ALLOCATION – RESOLUTION 2004-09

Dave Richards explained that this resolution will, if necessary, allocate the Courtyard payment in lieu of taxes in the amount of $100,000 that was given to the Town “to be used at the Fire Department or do whatever the Town can with it” as quoted from the minutes.  The Town Board approved Resolution 2004-05 allocating the payment to the Town’s General Fund in anticipation of determining an appropriate allocation of the funds at a later date.  Mr. Richards said the Town Board can determine the best location for these funds, leaving it in the General Fund if so desired.  Or it can be put in any fund that the Board would like.  This resolution has been left blank so the appropriate language that is agreed upon by the Town Board.  

Richard Billman clarified that the Board approved a resolution for it to be placed in the General Fund and now the Board is resolving to move it.

Paula Glidden noted that it was put into the General Fund as recommended by Dan McArthur to show where it goes and then to allocate it to any fund the Board chooses.  Ms. Glidden stated that at the time of the donation, she spoke with Mr. Caleb Roope and it was indicated by him that he wanted it to go to the fire department.  Jeanna Howard said Mr. Roope reiterated the intent to her also.  

Jeanna Howard Motioned to approve Resolution 2004-09 allocating $100,000 to PVFRS/Enterprise Fund donated by Courtyard Apartments.  Paula Glidden seconded for discussion.

Charlotte LeVar said there is one fund that could utilize this donation.  Mrs. LeVar suggested that it be used for the purchase of water rights at the fairgrounds due to water rights becoming more costly.  Charlotte LeVar stated that she understands that the fire department gets the allocation of monies from the brothels and several other things.  Mrs. LeVar said she would like to see this money go toward the Pahrump/Nye Fairgrounds.

Paula Glidden said she agrees with Charlotte LeVar but is concerned that this donation was received with a tie to it such that they donated it for a specific item.  Ms. Glidden stated she is afraid that it might stymie future donation and how people will look at this.  

Charlotte LeVar replied that she agrees with Ms. Glidden but noted that the donation was give to the fire department or any other fund that the Board deems worthy.  

Ms. Glidden noted she agrees with the minutes in the sense of the way he said it.  Paula Glidden said that in a discussion with Mr. Roope prior to the presentation it was indicated fully that the he wanted it to go to the fire department.  This was also confirmed in an email to Ms. Glidden.

Jeanna Howard explained that Mr. Roope was addressing in his statement was the Enterprise Fund which he was not aware of the terminology for that fund.  Ms. Howard said she had no confusion where this money was to be allocated and thought it was made clear that it was to go to PVFRS.  

Ed Bishop asked if there is anything in writing other than a vague transcript of the minutes.  Paula Glidden said there was a presentation of a check that was made to Chief Lewis.  Mr. Bishop asked if this individual or corporation been contacted and asked if there is a reason that someone has not made contact with these people for something in writing for their intent.  Paula Glidden said she had not confusion until it appeared on the agenda.  Ms. Glidden suggested that Mr. Richards contact Mr. Roope.  Paula Glidden stated that it was perfectly clear to her that the check was presented to the Fire Chief.  Ed Bishop also suggested that Mr. Richards make contact with these people and get something in writing.  Mr. Bishop suggested that this item be tabled and give Mr. Richards a couple weeks to produce something. Mr. Bishop said he wants the money to go where it was intended to keep the donor happy as it might affect future donations.   

Sandra Fink commented that she has a personal conversation with Mr. Roope who indicated to her he wanted to make the donation for the fire department.  

Frieda Moore commented that if he wrote it on the check why is that not considered as written proof.  Mr. Bishop said it was written on a ceremonial check and was not on the actual check.  Ed Bishop said he wants the donation to go where the donor wants it to go.

Dave Richards stated that the actual check does state to the Town of Pahrump.  Jeanna Howard asked if the check could have been written to PVFRS.  It would obviously be written to the Town of Pahrump.  Mr. Richards agreed.  Mr. Richards said he was unable to locate Mr. Roope with the phone number he had.  

Chief Lewis produced the ceremonial check that was given to him at the opening of the senior apartments.  It was specifically stated and recorded by the media that this was specifically for the fire department and it was to be used for a ladder truck or something of that nature.  Chief Lewis stated that Paula Glidden and Peggy Warner were present at the presentation.  

Vote passed 5 – 0.  

 

 


 

 

PRESENT:
Paula Glidden
Richard Billman
Charlotte LeVar
Jeanna Howard
Ed Bishop

CALL TO ORDER

Chairman Paula Glidden called the meeting to order and led in the pledge of allegiance.  Ms. Glidden welcomed everyone for coming to the meeting.

DISCUSSION REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS

There were no changes in the agenda at this time.

ANNOUNCEMENTS

Charlotte LeVar announced the following:

The Pahrump Regional Planning Commission will hear public comment regarding the zoning ordinance on May 26, at 6:00 p.m. in the Hall;
Commissioners Cox and Trummell will hold their pre agenda workshop on May 29, at 9:00 a.m. in Room B;
The Pahrump Town Office will be closed on Monday, May 31 in observance of
Memorial Day;
Nye County will sponsor a workshop concerning Devil’s Hole, June 2 from 1:00 p.m. until 5:00 p.m. and June 3 from 8:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. in the Community Center Hall;
Fall Festival Entertainment Committee will meet on June 2 at 6:00 p.m. in the Town Annex;
The Public Lands Advisory Board will not meet on June 2 as usual due to vacation schedules;
Nuclear Waste and Environmental Advisory Board will meet on June 3 at 7:00 p.m. in Room A;
A workshop by the Nevada Taxpayers Association will take place on June 7 at 6:30 p.m. in the Hall;
The June 7 Fall Festival Executive Committee meeting has been cancelled and rescheduled for June 14 at 6:30 p.m. in the Town Annex.
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Sally Devlin announced the following events:

On May 27 there will be a Citizens Alert on Yucca Mountain from 6:00 p.m. until 8:00 p.m. in the Hall;
On June 5 the final meeting of the year for the Friends of the Library will be held at the Library at 9:00 a.m.  This will include a pot luck lunch.
Also on June 5, there will be a variety show at the Winery at 7:00 p.m.
June 12 will be the Ms. Senior Pahrump Pageant at 7:00 p.m. at Saddle West.  Tickets will be $10 each.

Roberta Olinger announced that the Nye Communities Coalition on June 11 will be hosting an Excel training for non-profit people.  This class is free and you can sign up by calling 751-6825.  

Ms Olinger also announced they are releasing their RFA on June 1 for $128,000 for prevention programming in Nye and Esmeralda Counties.  Letters of intent will be accepted until June 9.  Contact Ms. Olinger at 764-7097 or at www.nyecc.org.

Arthur Jones representing the Veterans Coalition of Pahrump announced that on May 29 there will be a presentation of a World War II monument at Sweat’s house on Gamebird.  Any veteran is welcome to attend and it’s open to the public.

Mr. Jones announced that on May 30 a Memorial Service for veterans will be held at Tecopa Cemetery at 11:00 a.m.

Richard Billman announced that on May 26 at 9:30 a.m. at the Grant Sawyer Building in Las Vegas there will be a meeting of the Department of Taxation Commerce Committee and Taxation Committee from the legislature to discuss the 2% payroll tax paid by those governed by the Commerce under NRS 649.  

Jeanna Howard announced that on June 19 at 7:00 p.m. at the Town Hall Bar there will be a welcome home party for two Pahrump men returning from Iraq.  

Paula Glidden asked to return to Item #2.

DISCUSSION REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS

Ms. Glidden asked that Item #15 (Advisory Board Reports) be hard following the Announcements.  There were no objections to this change.

ADVISORY BOARD REPORTS

Jeanna Howard reported that the Regional Planning Commission at its last meeting tabled an item concerning a parcel map for a 625 home development on the south end of town.  This was
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tabled for input from the community and Town on this project.  Ms. Howard also announced the receipt of a grant to the Nye Communities Coalition.  

Kari Frilot reported for the Tourism Advisory Board that they are working on the Roger Brooks destination development workshop.  A special meeting was held at which they put together an action plan.

Ms. Frilot reported that in conjunction with the ads that were originally included in a grant application by Michelson Cooper Marketing for the golf ads in the Los Angeles Times.  Kari Frilot stated that 277 requests for information were received based on this advertisement.  

Kari Frilot reported that the Chamber of Commerce has received a grant for $12,700 to build a visitor center kiosk in Pahrump.  The grant was awarded and they received the full amount as requested.  This will require a match from the Town and it was agreed to $5,000 if this grant was awarded.  

PUBLIC COMMENT

Sally Devlin commented on the problems with fugitive dust and provided a copy of the report for the Board.  Ms. Devlin reported on the violations and dust permits.  

Karen Spaulding asked who is responsible for the dust on roads where the trash pick up is and school buses.  Sally Devlin replied that the dust created on the roads is called track out.  Track out is the dust collected on tires by going over dirt roads which becomes fugitive dust.  Whoever is creating the dust is responsible and should be reported to the drivers.

‘GOOD NEWS’ REGARDING PEOPLE, EVENTS, AWARDS, CELEBRATIONS OR OCCASIONS THAT REFLECTS POSITIVELY FOR THOSE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY

Roberta Olinger announced that on May 21, Nye Communities Coalition traveled to Tonopah to meet with a group to meld the two organizations.  After a 6 hour meeting Tonopah joined the NCC as an operating task force.  NCC now represents all non-profits from around the county.  

Chief Lewis announced that through Bill Hall, Director of Emergency Services for Nye County a grant was applied for under the Homeland Security and Mr. Hall notified Chief Lewis today that the early preliminary indication is that Pahrump has received a good portion of this grant.  Scott Lewis noted that we will be receiving 20 sets of turn out gear which is valued at $1,500 per set, 2 ATV off road vehicles and a very expensive electronic incident command accountability system.  Also to be received is a bio-detector unit.  

Paula Glidden announced that the groundbreaking ceremony for the hospital took place on May 22.  The ceremony was well attended and represented.  
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Ed Bishop congratulated the Pahrump Valley High School Girls Softball Team for winning the State Championship two years in a row.  

Jeanna Howard thanked the citizens for coming forward with all the Good News and appreciates the utilization of this agenda item.  

DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING GRANT OF UP TO $3,000 TO REIMBURSE UNITED WAY FOR EXPENSES INCURRED TO SPONSOR CINCO de MAYO

Karen Spaulding explained that this was brought to the Pahrump Tourism Advisory Board in April and was approved by the advisory board and sent a letter of recommendation to the Town and thought it was taken care of prior to Cinco de Mayo.  Karen Spaulding said United Way did front most of the cost of this event and is asking for reimbursement.  Ms. Spaulding asked that the Town reimburse United Way as they did last year.  Karen Spaulding noted this was the third annual Cinco de Mayo.  

Richard Billman Motioned to support the event with $3,000 reimbursed to United Way.  Ed Bishop seconded the motion.

Vote passed 5 – 0.  

SECOND READING OF THIRD AMENDMENT TO PAHRUMP TOWN ORDINANCE #35 – BUSINESS LICENSE ORDINANCE – ISSUES AS STATED IN THE AMENDMENT

Charlotte LeVar read the title for this PTO #35 as follows:

    AN ACT AMENDING PAHRUMP TOWN ORDINANCE NO. 35 TO REPEAL A PORTION OF THE APRIL 25, 1995 AMENDMENT WHICH MADE DISLOSURE OF SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS PERMISSIVE; TO REPEAL THE MAY 12, 1998 AMENDMENT CHANGING THE BUSINESS LICENSE FEE FROM $50.00 TO $40.00; TO ADD A FEE FOR REPLACEMENT OF A BUSIESS LICENSE AND A FEE FOR REISSUANCE OF A LICENSE DUE TO CHANGE OF ADDRESS; AND TO AMEND 35.220(A) TO REQUIRE A $5.00 FEE FOR NON PROFIT PERMITS; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL; SEVERABILITY; EFFECTIVE DAT; AND OTHER MATTERS PROPERLY RELATING THERETO

There were no comments.




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DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING THE IMPOSITION OF AN ADDITIONAL TAX OR A FIXED FLAT FEE FOR THE SALE OF ALL FIREWORKS SOLD WITHIN NYE COUNTY.  IT IS THE INTENT THAT THIS ADDITIONAL TAX/FEE BE IMPOSED BY THE NYE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO BE ALLOCATED TO THE INDIVIDUAL FIRE RESCUE SERVICE THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SERVICES IN EACH PARTICULAR AREA (TONOPAH, BEATTY, AMARGOSA, PAHRUMP, ETC.)

Jeanna Howard explained that she spoke with people that work with or own fireworks establishments in this community.  They are very supportive of some sort of a fee, not necessarily a tax.  What is being worked on currently is a complete proposal to bring back to the Board to endorse going to the Nye County Commissioners.  Ms. Howard said they are looking at the potential of imposing a $1 safety fee per transaction.  Jeanna Howard explained there is a way to account for this as statutes require an information sheet related to the buyers’ residents and other information which is kept on file for three years.  Ms. Howard continued that we will be able to monitor what is owed or to be reimbursed through this fee.  Jeanna Howard said they are favoring the idea of a safety fee versus imposing 1% on sales.  The owners are working on getting their numbers together.  Ms. Howard apologized for the agenda item being and action item.  Ms. Howard wanted to give a report by the next Town Board meeting to present a definitive package which will be supported by those entities that sell fireworks in order to create revenue for Pahrump Valley Fire and Rescue Service (PVFRS) and where ever fireworks are sold within the county to be allocated to that specific community.  Ms. Howard reported that currently fireworks are only sold in Pahrump.  Jeanna Howard noted that if that were to change there would be a system established for the reimbursement.  Ms. Howard pointed out that it is believed that $1.5 million dollars in fireworks are sold in Pahrump per year.  There is a direct impact on PVFRS which is the sole motivation of this fee.  

Jeanna Howard Motioned to table this item until the next meeting.  Ed Bishop seconded for discussion.  

Richard Billman noted that fireworks are illegal in Nye County and are primarily purchased by Clark County residents.  They are also illegal in Clark County as well.  Mr. Billman said he has problems with fireworks because this is a strange commodity to be levying a fee or tax on.  Richard Billman said he is uncomfortable talking about something that is illegal in the County and illegal in the neighboring community as well.

Ed Bishop explained that they are illegal to posses and set off, but they are not illegal to sell in Nye County.  The County Commission has deemed it legal to sell fireworks.  Mr. Bishop said he does not care where they go, but if they are going to sell them and buy them we may as well profit from it.  Mr. Bishop asked Jeanna Howard regarding licenses for the fireworks sales it was said that a large percentage of the fireworks sales are actually wholesale and not retail.  Shops are here and most sales are wholesale in large quantities and has she considered that a $1 transaction fee to someone buying $100,000 in fireworks is not very much.  
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Jeanna Howard replied that there is no definitive resolve to this yet.  Ms. Howard said it was a win, win situation in that we have the direct impact if there is a crisis and secondary to that since it is legal take all the money we can get.  Ms. Howard said that she personally favors 1% on all sales as a safety fee but will look into it further.  The great thing is that is does impact those coming to Pahrump just to buy the fireworks and then leaving the community.  

Richard Billman said that if this is to be done a fee should be set that makes it worth our while.

Paula Glidden asked to also consider internet sales in this fee.

Vote passed 5 – 0.  

DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING PURCHASE OF TWO AMBULANCES

Chief Scott Lewis explained that he was present to discuss the potential purchase of two ambulances.  These two ambulances would be used on the 911 side of the service which is used to transport paramedics in town.  This is not for the transport side of the department.  Chief Lewis continued that right now there are two medic units #14 and #15 which were purchased used in 2000 from New York and were not designed for this harsh environment.  The purchase price at the time was attractive therefore it was found to be a short term fix for some of the problems for transporting patients within town limits.  Chief Lewis stated that these units have become very expensive to run and right now they are averaging approximately thirteen weeks of down time per year per unit.  At the present time, both units are out of service as the State has deemed.  Both units would take approximately $24,000 each to bring the units back to specs.  Considering this, Chief Lewis asked that the Town purchase two new 911 ambulances at a purchase price of $99,500 each.  Chief Lewis said he would have to go out to bid.  Scott Lewis said there are other options as Nye County recently purchased ambulances through the same dealer, Wheeled Coach, and could get a bid price through them.  Chief Lewis asked specifically if he could go to bid on these two ambulances.  The goal is not to use any taxpayers’ money directly and would use donated money, brothel money and the trade in value of the two existing ambulances.  Scott Lewis said he has verbal estimates at this time of approximately $20,000 per unit trade in value.  

Jeanna Howard Motioned to approve the two ambulances requested by the Fire Chief.  Paula Glidden seconded for discussion.

Jeanna Howard asked why these two units are out of commission.  Chief Lewis replied that they are out of service due to mechanical issues.  Currently, both units need an engine rebuild, a transmission rebuild, and also need front end rebuilds at an approximate cost of $20,000 each.  There are also some medical issues in that floors need to be resealed and the interior compartments where the patients are maintained need to be updated at a cost of $4,000 to $5,000.  Total cost is approximately $25,000 per unit.  Estimates are available for Board review.  
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Patricia Cox commented that she does not wish to slow down the process as the ambulances are needed.  Ms. Cox explained that through the appropriation funding it was asked that $200,000 be set aside and believes the funding is being granted.  It has not yet been received.  The money had been discussed for this purpose.  Jeanna Howard asked Ms. Cox if this money was specifically solicited for ambulance for Pahrump Valley Fire and Rescue.  Patricia Cox responded that it was solicited but it must come through Nye County and must be placed on an agenda so the Commission can appropriate the funding.  Ms. Cox noted that during her trip to Washington D.C. the money was asked for PVFRS.  

Paula Glidden asked if the money could be used for other things.  Patricia Cox replied no.  

Charlotte LeVar asked Chief Lewis how long it would take to bring the ambulances up to code.
Chief Lewis replied that it would not be cost effective to make the repairs as it would exceed over one half the value of the apparatus and would not get the full trade in value and would take a number of weeks to rebuild the equipment.  Chief Lewis stated that it is not his recommendation is not to rebuild the existing equipment.  

Patricia Cox noted that the funding may not come in until October due to the fiscal year.  Ms. Cox asked if there are any future ambulances that can be retired that the federal money could cover.  Chief Lewis said absolutely and this request was not in consideration of the federal monies.  Scott Lewis said the thought was to replace the 911 ambulances now as there is a 90 day build time and then used the federal grant money to purchase ambulances for the transport side of the service.  

Paula Glidden noted that she talked with John O’Brien and was informed of how sever the trouble is and one of them is more engine trouble than anything.  Ms. Glidden noted that there are some dramatic problems.  Chief Lewis noted that they are twin vehicles and they both have the same mechanical problems as well as the flooring and compartment issues.  That is why the State did not certify them on their last visit.  

Charlotte LeVar asked for a recommendation from Dave Richards.  Dave Richards said that he agrees with Chief Lewis that the repairs would exceed the value of the vehicles if they were traded in.  Mr. Richards noted that at the same time the $25,000 repair cost is attractive compared to the $190,000 that is proposed to purchase new vehicles.  Mr. Richards said that given the communities indecisiveness over the future of the ambulance service, he would recommend that the repairs be made at this point and wait until decisions are made regarding the future of the ambulance service and the receipt of $200,000 in October to replace vehicles.  

Paula Glidden clarified that it would cost approximately $50,000 to repair both vehicles.  

Ed Bishop said he agreed with Dave Richards.  A meeting was held last night to discuss the future and the present and the past of the fire rescue service,  and the consensus of the Board was to put something on the next agenda to form a subcommittee to decide what direction the
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community wanted to take, what level of service they wanted, and what they wanted to do with this service, whether they want to pay for the service or not.  Mr. Bishop stated he has a problem spending almost $200,000 today and finding out in six weeks that 75% of the population says get out of the ambulance business.  

Paula Glidden asked Chief Lewis what the estimated life is of the two vehicles if repaired.  Chief Lewis replied that mechanically they will last a little longer although the bodies are in need of great repair.  Chief Lewis noted that this is just immediate issues for these vehicles to remain road worthy.  The vehicles are approaching 10 years of age and are physically nickel and dime-ing us to death.  The engines can be rebuilt and the transmissions and the front ends, but that does not mean there will be no rear end problems or electrical issues.  Chief Lewis explained that these vehicles have been causing great difficulties in keeping them on the road due to cooling issues as these vehicles were not built for this environment.  When talking about cooling, Chief Lewis explained he was referring to engine cooling and the air conditioning units which are constantly being replaced, as well as replacing alternators on a regular basis.   The $50,000 does not address those issues and is just to get the engines, transmissions and front ends rebuilt.  The cost to maintain these vehicles is approximately fourteen times what was paid for the current wheeled coach ambulances to remain on the street.  Chief Lewis stated that the repairs could be a good Band-Aid but does not address the maintenance issues for the long run.  

Jeanna Howard asked Chief Lewis to clarify that these units are used by the paramedics to assess patients and are staying in Town.  Chief Lewis replied that they are not used for transporting patients to Las Vegas but are used to take patients to local clinics or facilities and to Mercy Air helipad.  Ms. Howard asked about other smaller units like those used in Las Vegas. Chief Lewis noted that those would be used more in the transport mode but they are having difficulties getting parts for those Mercedes vehicles.  

George Gingell commented that the Board would be foolish to spend the money to repair these vehicles if they are in bad shape and have the mileage as reported.  Mr. Gingell said it would be better to go with the new ones even if temporary as our service would probably put 100,000 miles on them in six months or a year.  These vehicles are rolling hospitals and the only thing we have.  

Charlotte LeVar clarified that these are not vehicles used for transport to Las Vegas and only used within the town limits.  Chief Lewis responded that these vehicles are critical as they are the ambulances that take the patients to Mercy Air.  The more stable patients are taken into Las Vegas by ground transport.  Chief Lewis noted that the service currently has a temporary order from the State EMS division stating they can use vehicles that they cannot transport in.  This causes inherent problems in the system.  Mrs. LeVar said she understood Chief Lewis to say they were only used in town and did not hear anything about transporting critical care patients in these vehicles.  


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George Gingell commented that spending $25,000 to rebuild this junk and the mechanic should be commended for his ability to keep them running.

Charlie Gronda commented that the ambulances were purchased at the time as they were a very good deal but it turned out there were problems from day one due to the temperature differences.  Mr. Gronda recommended that the Board go for the new ambulances as putting money into the current vehicles will still create the thirteen weeks of down time and will still have the loss as well as running the other ambulances and putting more miles on them.  If the community chooses to get out of the ambulances a private company would not want to take over what is already here.  Mr. Gronda said that the ambulances would probably go to the county and the people of Pahrump would get the use of the vehicles.  

Richard Billman noted that it would pre suppose the County would want the ambulances.  Mr. Gronda explained that when the Town received the ambulance service, they got what the County had and would assume that everything would go back to the County.  The better off the ambulances are the better off the people will be, if that would happen.  

Richard Billman said he is somewhat cautious and would feel better at postponing this for a short period.  Mr. Gronda asked how long it would be to get the new ambulances.  Chief Lewis replied it would take 90 days.  Charlie Gronda noted that what ever time the Board waits you still have to add 90 days on.  Richard Billman noted that would be opposed to 90 days for the rebuild.  

Art Jones commented that it was his opinion that over a period of time, within two year, the ambulance and fire department would be completely paying for itself.  Mr. Jones said if the Town is going to spend money he would spend the money on new ambulances and would get some of the money from the fireworks to help bail out our ambulance service.

Paula Glidden commented that in her experience she has fixed vehicles in the past and did not get anything out of them at the end.  Ms. Glidden said she is concerned about that.  Ms. Glidden said she would feel there would be more of a resale value in the new vehicle.  

Chief Lewis said the goal is to use donated monies, brothel monies and the trade in values and not take any money from the General Fund or out of the Enterprise Fund.  If the repairs are done it would come from the General Fund.  This would avoid a financial impact to the Town.  

Paula Glidden asked if one unit is better than the other.  Chief Lewis replied that they are exactly alike.  Ms. Glidden referred to their drivability and function ability.  Chief Lewis again said they are exactly the same and are experiencing the same mechanical failures and break downs.  

Ed Bishop asked how long it would take to put together the Requests for Proposals for a bid.  Chief Lewis replied at least 30 days to create a bid and specifications.  Chief Lewis noted that they could use specifications that were similarly used in the past as one was received around

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September 2003.  It would not take much time to generate but then go through the bid process and then the 90 day build time.  

Mr. Bishop clarified that here would be a 90 day build time, two to four weeks to create the bid, and 90 days bid time.  Chief Lewis explained that you have to do the specifications, go through the bid process, and then the 90 day build time.  Ed Bishop asked if the total would be somewhere around seven months and with that we are looking at October when the federal money should be there.  Patricia Cox said you cannot count on October being the date to receive the federal money.  

Jeanna Howard said she has not problem investing money into the Public Safety if the Board chooses to move forward and the federal money came in that money could be utilized at that time and if not there is the donated and brothel money.  Chief Lewis noted that the PVFRS will need to be looking into replacing some transport units because as mentioned the oldest unit has 400,000 miles on it.  

Paula Glidden asked what is being used in place of the two downed vehicles.  Chief Lewis replied that two brush trucks, Attack I and Attack II, which the State has given certification but on a temporary order.  Chief Lewis said this is a problem because we cannot effectively manage patient care in these units.  If a critically ill patient needs to get to Mercy Air there is no method to get that patient from the scene to the helipad.  

Frieda Moore commented that the Board is supposed to be representing the people and she is leery of some of the things coming from the Board.  Mrs. Moore said the people need the paramedics and asked the Board to do what needs to be done for the people and get the new vehicles.

Tim Murray commented that he has driven both vehicles and know that the medic units are down or Band-Aided together to run for the past two years.  This presents a problem when all of the transports are out.  It may come to the point where there will be no vehicles to transport patients to Mercy Air for a higher level of care.  Mr. Murray said you can spend money to rebuild the ambulances but the vehicles have been problematic for at least two and a half years.  The fixes made have reached the point of diminishing return.  Tim Murray said the vehicles do not appear to be road worthy for the Pahrump roads and are not lasting.  Mr. Murray stated he feels the two vehicles are justified at this time.  

Dave Richards commented that he would like to remind the Board that a budget was approved on May 20 and it has an appropriation for two new ambulances of next year beginning July 1 and that is when the purchase was planned.  While the Town cannot depend on federal money as we are waiting for money that Mr. Richards heard about in January for an ambulances funded through a Congressional bill as well.  


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Jeanna Howard noted that the Congressional money referred to is the same money that Commissioner Cox is addressing.  There are not two different appropriations.  Mr. Richards said that when talking with Senator Reid’s aid he heard $100,000 and now he hears $200,000 tonight.  Mr. Richards said he thinks the timeline for bidding and building of new ambulances, and the necessity for getting something on the road, that it is a better option is to rebuild.  

Lorayne Murray commented that what she is hearing is an assumption that might be incorrect in that this year the ambulance service is only going to replace two vehicles, the ones for 911.  What has been said is that we will need more than these two.  Mrs. Murray said the Board should consider all of the vehicles and their use.  Lorayne Murray explained that to make a decision to spend Town money, throwing bad money after something that is already broken down just to Band-Aid it, when the Chief is offering an option that will not take Town money.  The $50,000 to repair these vehicles is coming from Town money which could be spent on other items that could come up.  

Terry Davies asked if has been addressed the thought of leasing the ambulances.  Chief Lewis responded that he has considered leasing.  However, leasing companies will not talk to PVFRS due to the mileage placed on each vehicle each year.  

Jeanna Howard stated that leasing could be a possibility when the hospital is built for some of the vehicles we now use.  Ms. Howard pointed out that even after the hospital is built there will still be an abundance of transports going to Las Vegas.  

Vote failed 2 – 3.  Paula Glidden and Jeanna Howard voted aye.  Richard Billman, Charlotte LeVar, and Ed Bishop voted nay.

DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING RESOLUTION #2004-07 – TO MODIFY NUMBER OF SIGNATURES REQUIRED ON ALL FUTURE RESOLUTIONS

Dave Richards explained that we are having some difficulty getting signatures on the resolutions and they are very important documents that need to be handled in a timely manner.  Mr. Richards noted that they are a permanent record of the Town Board’s actions which are easier to access than minutes.  Dave Richards said that some actions are better served by resolutions than minutes.  Mr. Richards proposed that the number of signatures required on the resolutions, if approved, the Town Board Clerk will record the vote of the resolutions indicating how the Town Board members voted and the signature of the Town Board Chairperson in attendance would be the only signature required.  It is recommended that this Resolution #2004-07 be approved.  

Richard Billman Motioned to approve Resolution #2004-07.  Charlotte LeVar seconded the motion.  

Vote passed 5 – 0.

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DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING COURTYARD DONATION FUND ALLOCATION – RESOLUTION #2004-09

Dave Richards explained that this resolution will, if necessary, allocate the Courtyard payment in lieu of taxes in the amount of $100,000 that was given to the Town “to be used at the Fire Department or do whatever the Town can with it” as quoted from the minutes.  The Town Board approved Resolution 2004-05 allocating the payment to the Town’s General Fund in anticipation of determining an appropriate allocation of the funds at a later date.  Mr. Richards said the Town Board can determine the best location for these funds, leaving it in the General Fund if so desired.  Or it can be put in any fund that the Board would like.  This resolution has been left blank so the appropriate language that is agreed upon by the Town Board.  

Richard Billman clarified that the Board approved a resolution for it to be placed in the General Fund and now the Board is resolving to move it.

Paula Glidden noted that it was put into the General Fund as recommended by Dan McArthur to show where it goes and then to allocate it to any fund the Board chooses.  Ms. Glidden stated that at the time of the donation, she spoke with Mr. Caleb Roope and it was indicated by him that he wanted it to go to the fire department.  Jeanna Howard said Mr. Roope reiterated the intent to her also.  

Jeanna Howard Motioned to approve Resolution 2004-09 allocating $100,000 to PVFRS/Enterprise Fund donated by Courtyard Apartments.  Paula Glidden seconded for discussion.

Charlotte LeVar said there is one fund that could utilize this donation.  Mrs. LeVar suggested that it be used for the purchase of water rights at the fairgrounds due to water rights becoming more costly.  Charlotte LeVar stated that she understands that the fire department gets the allocation of monies from the brothels and several other things.  Mrs. LeVar said she would like to see this money go toward the Pahrump/Nye Fairgrounds.

Paula Glidden said she agrees with Charlotte LeVar but is concerned that this donation was received with a tie to it such that they donated it for a specific item.  Ms. Glidden stated she is afraid that it might stymie future donations and how people will look at this.  

Charlotte LeVar replied that she agrees with Ms. Glidden but noted that the donation was given to the fire department or any other fund that the Board deems worthy.  

Ms. Glidden noted she agrees with the minutes in the sense of the way he said it.  Paula Glidden said that in a discussion with Mr. Roope prior to the presentation it was indicated fully that the he wanted it to go to the fire department.  This was also confirmed in an email to Ms. Glidden.


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Jeanna Howard explained that Mr. Roope was addressing in his statement was the Enterprise Fund which he was not aware of the terminology for that fund.  Ms. Howard said she had no confusion where this money was to be allocated and thought it was made clear that it was to go to PVFRS.  

Ed Bishop asked if there is anything in writing other than a vague transcript of the minutes.  Paula Glidden said there was a presentation of a check that was made to Chief Lewis.  Mr. Bishop asked if this individual or corporation been contacted and asked if there is a reason that someone has not made contact with these people for something in writing for their intent.  Paula Glidden said she had no confusion until it appeared on the agenda.  Ms. Glidden suggested that Mr. Richards contact Mr. Roope.  Paula Glidden stated that it was perfectly clear to her that the check was presented to the Fire Chief.  Ed Bishop also suggested that Mr. Richards make contact with these people and get something in writing.  Mr. Bishop suggested that this item be tabled and give Mr. Richards a couple weeks to produce something. Mr. Bishop said he wants the money to go where it was intended to keep the donor happy as it might affect future donations.   

Sandra Fink commented that she had a personal conversation with Mr. Roope who indicated to her he wanted to make the donation for the fire department.  

Frieda Moore commented that if he wrote it on the check why not that is considered as written proof.  Mr. Bishop said it was written on a ceremonial check and was not on the actual check.  Ed Bishop said he wants the donation to go where the donor wants it to go.

Dave Richards stated that the actual check does state to the Town of Pahrump.  Jeanna Howard asked if the check could have been written to PVFRS.  It would obviously be written to the Town of Pahrump.  Mr. Richards agreed.  Mr. Richards said he was unable to locate Mr. Roope with the phone number he had.  

Chief Lewis produced the ceremonial check that was given to him at the opening of the senior apartments.  It was specifically stated and recorded by the media that this was specifically for the fire department and it was to be used for a ladder truck or something of that nature.  Chief Lewis stated that Paula Glidden and Peggy Warner were present at the presentation.  

Vote passed 5 – 0.  

DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING MALIBOU STREET TRUCK TRAFFIC – RESOLUTION #2004-08

Dave Richards explained that at the zoning meeting a couple of residents on Malibou Street brought to the attention of the Board that they were having difficulties with excessive heavy construction truck traffic on Malibou between Gamebird and Dandelion Streets.  These residents have demonstrated that they do have a problem with heavy trucks.  Mr. Richards said that this has affected their quality of life as well as endangered their safety.  Dave Richards stated that he
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has talked with Mr. Yao at the County and also Sheriff DeMeo and they both expressed interest in assisting the situation on Malibou. Mr. Richards stated that the Town has prepared a resolution for the Town Board to consider urging the Nye County Board of Commissioners to pass a resolution that will ban heavy truck use on Malibou from Gamebird to Dandelion Streets.  It is recommended that the Town Board approve Resolution #2004-08.  The residents are present if the Board wishes to ask them any questions and they have provided pictures and a petition.  Mr. Richards urged the Board to consider this resolution which will be forwarded to the County asking for action on behalf of these people.

Cristina Hinds noted that when drafting this resolution there are no exemptions and Mr. Bishop listed certain exemptions such as mail or package pick up, which he would like included in the resolution.  Ms. Hinds suggested adding language that the Town Board would like the County to include exemption for six listed items so as not to prohibit the use of certain vehicles.  

Ed Bishop Motioned to adopt Resolution #2004-08 with the following additions to the wording; except for exempted vehicles as follows: mail or package pick up and delivery vehicles, school busses, trash removal vehicles, vehicles delivering or picking up building materials and/or, construction trucks carrying supplies to be delivered to the immediate neighborhood, and fire and emergency services vehicles.  Richard Billman seconded the motion.

Jeanna Howard stated that she completely agree with doing this resolution but feel we are stepping into something we have nothing to do with.  Ms. Howard said the Board does have a voice and it is nice to represent our constituents.  Jeanna Howard asked if the Board will be doing a resolution for every street when someone comes to the Board.  

Ed Bishop explained that he surveyed the area on a Saturday for fifteen minutes near noon time and counted 8 truck trips on Malibou.  Two were in excess of the speed limit, two were water trucks that drove down, filled up and returned, and out of 6 vehicles three were Nye County Road Department vehicles.  Mr. Bishop said these people have a valid complaint.  Ed Bishop noted that the Board cannot ignore the situation because the people are suffering dramatically.  

Jeanna Howard asked if there is possible consideration for specifically stating the street.  Could this resolution be generalized in the wording of the resolution to include residential streets that have a density of a number of homes?  Ms. Howard asked for something more than just Malibou Street be considered.   Mr. Bishop agreed that the resolution could be refined but would create a problem as this is a minor arterial collector route that allows for a lot of traffic.  This is not your basic residential road, Ed Bishop noted.  This is a recommendation to the County Commission.  

Dan Clark noted that he lives on Malibou and shared his information regarding his survey of traffic on Malibou.   

Terry Davies commented on the pictures he provided to the Board of the truck traffic and dust problems on Malibou.  Jeanna Howard assured Mr. Davies that the Board is concerned on behalf
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of the residents on Malibou.  Ms. Howard said she was asking if there was a way to broaden the resolution to include more than Malibou Street.   

Ron Daviau commented that a moratorium is not needed to stop this.  Mr. Daviau said there are Interstate Commerce Commission already deals with this problem.  Ron Daviau suggested that the Town Board make a request to the Nevada Department of Transportation (NDOT) to get the enforcement to stop the trucks from going fast and overloading.  

Paula Glidden did report in the past to NDOT regarding the covering of truck loads and they were non responsive at best.  

Art Jones commented that the lives in the Malibou area and expressed concerns regarding the truck traffic.

George Gingell commented that to solve the problem, have signs installed forbidding commercial vehicles which would not include the delivery trucks.  

Paula Glidden clarified that this resolution is to go to the County Commission to ask them to consider doing something on Malibou about the trucks.  Ms. Glidden said she is in support of the resolution to help order to help these residents and feels the trucks need to be reprimanded but does not know how to do that.  

Vote passed 5 – 0.

DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT BY THE PAHRUMP TOWN BOARD OF A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE E.D.E.N. BOARD (Economic Development for Esmeralda and Nye)

Richard Billman explained that additional information has been received and there is no opening on the EDEN Board.  Mr. Billman asked that this item be removed from the agenda.

Paula Glidden explained that the Town is represented currently by Mary Wilson and Paula Elefante as well as Commissioner Cox.  Ms. Glidden continued that it is the EDEN Board that is holding election for officers.  If an EDEN Board member chooses to leave it will then create an open seat at which time the Town of Pahrump Board can appoint.  

Patricia Cox commented that it is imperative that the Town Board have a liaison to the EDEN Board so reports can be received.  Ms. Cox encouraged the Town Board to be a liaison to the EDEN board.  

Paula Glidden stated that she agrees with that.  Ms. Glidden appointed Ed Bishop to become a liaison to EDEN so the Board can get information regarding economic development.

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TOWN MANAGER’S REPORT

Dave Richards reported that action has been taken on recommendations concerning the ambulance billing practices, such as increasing rates, investigating selling old accounts, and have asked J.J. McIntyre Collections to provide an activity report for account collections and also found out there are two collection agencies.  One is used more than the other.  

Mr. Richards reported ongoing negotiations with the IAFF.  Meetings are being held and more meetings will take place on June 8 and June 15.  

Dave Richards noted that meetings are being held with health care agents and have sat through many presentations and been given many options, some of which meet the objections better than others.  Mr. Richards said the main objective was to maximize the benefit to the employees and keep the cost within the limits of what is being paid currently.  Mr. Richards said he feels some of the proposals are serious from both agents and is very encouraged with the success that the insurance committee has had in dealing with the agents.  

Mr. Richards said he has asked the television stations in Las Vegas that use the Town translator for assistance in creating specifications for equipment that needs to be replaced.  They have indicated they are willing to do that and will be in anticipation of preparing bid specifications for replacing two of the translators.  

Dave Richards reported that he has had discussions with the Town Attorney regarding tumbleweeds as there are residents having issues with tumbleweeds blowing across their yards from the sod farm.  Mr. Richards noted that ways are being looked into to enact and enforce either the Uniform or the International Fire Codes and give the Fire Chief the authority to enforce those codes.  

DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING FALL FESTIVAL BY LAWS

Jeanna Howard Motioned to change the bylaws as it relates to allowing the Vice Chairs of each committee to have the voting authority in the absence of the Fall Festival Committee Chairman to the Executive Fall Festival Board.  Charlotte LeVar seconded the motion.  

Cristina Hinds asked if it was proxy voting.  Mr. Howard replied that the Vice Chairs would be in attendance for voting purpose.  Ms. Hinds asked for clarification that they would be voting in behest of the Chair or as their own vote.  Jeanna Howard asked that it be left as the open ended legal way is what she and the Executive Board would like.  Ms. Howard stated if the Chairman has a direction from the committee, they will give it to the Vice Chair, if they do not the Vice Chair will make the decision.  

Vote passed 5 – 0.

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DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING BOOTH SPACES FOR THE TOWN OF PAHRUMP AT THE JULY 4TH FREEDOM FESTIVAL TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR FALL FESTIVAL ENTERTAINMENT AND FIRE-RESCUE AND TO REQUEST SPECIAL PERMIT FROM NYE COUNTY TO SELL LIQUOR

Jeanna Howard noted that this is a duplication of last year to raise funds as stated in the agenda item.  

Jeanna Howard Motioned to approve liquor license for a fundraising effort for a booth at the Pahrump 4th of July festivities.

Charlotte LeVar asked if it is for the Fall Festival Entertainment and Fire-Rescue only.  Jeanna Howard replied affirmatively.  

Richard Billman seconded the motion.

Ed Bishop asked if the special permit from Nye County was to sell liquor, beer, wine, tequila.  Jeanna Howard replied that it would be beer and wine coolers.  Ed Bishop requested that beer and wine coolers be made part of the motion as he has an issue with hard liquor.  

Jeanna Howard amended her motion to specify beer and wine sales only.  Richard Billman seconded the amendment.

Vote passed 5 – 0.

CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS:
A.    Action – approval of Town vouchers
B.    Action – approval of regular Town Board meeting minutes of May 11, 2004
C.    Action – approval of ambulance billing write offs

Charlotte LeVar Motioned to approve the minutes of May 11, 2004.  Richard Billman seconded the motion.

Vote passed 5 – 0.

Charlotte LeVar Motioned to approve the ambulance billing write offs.  Ed Bishop seconded the motion.  

Vote passed 5 – 0.

Mrs. LeVar said she has one voucher that she is in question of that there is no backup.  Paula Glidden noted that all the items must be approved or none of them.  

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Charlotte LeVar said the voucher is one for cellular bills for $1,000.  Mrs. LeVar said she has seen no back up regarding these phone calls and this is done with all other bills.  Paula Glidden clarified that this is for Ms. Howard’s phone bill.  Mrs. LeVar said it was.  

Paula Glidden asked how far back the phone bills go.  Ms. Howard replied that it is for three months of phone bills during the busy time of serving and representing the Fall Festival.  Jeanna Howard pointed out that the Board has never gone into depth on voucher publicly and is not sure why the Board is doing it now.  Ms. Howard stated if someone has a problem they should request it.  A point of information from Ms. Howard stated that Mr. Rick Ewing’s cell phone bills were always approved with no back up.  Charlotte LeVar said she only remembers one.  Jeanna Howard noted that since being on the Town Board she has never turned in a receipt to be reimbursed for anything and have funded a good majority of functions including Earth Day.  Ms. Howard said she felt it appropriate to turn in three months of cell phone bills.  Ms. Howard said she is now using an unlimited plan due to the number of advisory boards that she is on as well as chairing the Fall Festival and being on the RPC.  Jeanna Howard stated it was out of control the amount of calls that come through and is part of the job.  Ms. Howard said she is not complaining.  Paula Glidden said that she does not feel that reimbursement uncalled for.  Ms. Glidden said she feels the Board pays a lot for being in this position.  Charlotte LeVar said that is not the reason she is stating her concerns.  Mrs. LeVar said it is because all the other phone bills that come into the office have call backup.  Ms. Glidden suggested finding a mechanism for this matter.  Paula Glidden asked if Ms. Howard will be submitting more bills or anyone else.  Jeanna Howard replied that after this she will absolutely not submit any more bills.  Ms. Howard said she is still unsure why this discussion is taking place in a public meeting as it has never been done previously.  

Paula Glidden asked Dave Richards to look into a mechanism for reimbursement for expenses.

Charlotte LeVar Motioned to approve the vouchers.  Richard Billman seconded the motion.

Vote passed 5 – 0.

ADJOURNMENT

Paula Glidden adjourned the meeting.

Respectfully submitted,



Charlotte LeVar, Clerk



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Item #9 – verbatim

DISCUSSION, ACTION AND DECISION REGARDING PURCHASE OF TWO AMBULANCES

Chief Scott Lewis – Good evening again.  Scott Lewis, Fire Chief.  I’m here to discuss this evening the purchase or potential purchase of two ambulances.  These two ambulances would be used on the 911 side of the service which is used to transport our Paramedics in town.  This is not on the transport side.  Right now we have two medic units numbers fourteen and fifteen that were purchased used in the year 2000.  They were from Huntington Long Island, in New York.  They were not designed for our environment, our harsh environment in which we operate here in Pahrump.  The purchase price at the time was an attractive price, therefore it was found to be a short term fix to some of our problems for transporting patients in town limits.  These ambulances have become very expensive to run at this point.  Right now, they’re averaging about thirteen weeks of down time per year per unit.  At this moment, as we speak, both are out of service as the state has deemed, as well as the mechanic McCandles International out of Las Vegas.  It would take approximately $24,000 per unit to bring the trucks back up to specs.  With that in the consideration I would like to come to you this evening and ask that we purchase two new 911 ambulances at a purchase price of $99,500 each.  That is a ballpark and I would have to go out to bid.  There are some other options because Nye County recently purchased ambulances through the same dealer, which is Wheeled Coach, and we could conceivably get a bid price through them since it appears that they are state standard now.  But what I’m asking this evening specifically is if I can go to bid on these two ambulances.  Our goal is not to use any taxpayers money directly.  We would like to use the donated money, the brothel money and then the trade in values of the two existing ambulances.  We do have verbal agreements at this point, or verbal estimates I should say, of about $20,000 trade in value per unit.  

Paula Glidden – OK.  Do we have a motion from the Board please?

Jeanna Howard – Move to approve the two ambulances requested by the Fire Chief.

Paula Glidden – Motion to approve.  Do we have a second?  I will second that for discussion.  

Jeanna Howard – Chief Lewis, these two are now not in commission because of why?

Chief Lewis – They are currently out of service due to mechanical issues.  Currently both trucks need an engine rebuild, a transmission rebuild, and they also need front end rebuilds at an approximate cost of $20,000.  Then there are some medical issues, the floors need to be resealed and a lot of the interior compartment where the patients are maintained need to be updated and that cost is $4,000 to $5,000.  The total cost is approximately $25,000 per unit.  We also have estimates available for your review.  

Patricia Cox – Commissioner Cox, I don’t want to slow down the process cause I know that you do need the ambulances and move forward.  But, I know that when Commissioner Trummell and myself back to Washington through the appropriation funding we asked to set aside $200,000 and I believe that funding is being granted but we haven’t actually received it yet.  And I know it takes time to go through the RFP process but I know that that money was discussed for this purpose.  So that is something to have food for thought.  I don’t know when, we are talking furrow money.  So I don’t know when we will receive it but that was set aside and granted.  

Jeanna Howard – Commissioner Cox, that was specifically solicited for ambulances for Pahrump Valley Fire-Rescue, correct?

Patricia Cox – It was solicited but the way, because it comes through Nye County we have to agendize it saying that that’s where we’re want to appropriate the funding for it.  But when we were back there that is what we requested it for.  

Jeanna Howard – No.  And I understand.

Patricia Cox – inaudible

Jeanna Howard – Thank you.  

Paula Glidden – Could it be used for other things though?

Patricia Cox – No.

Paula Glidden – Just asked.    Further discussion?

Charlotte LeVar – Yes.  Since we possibly have federal grant money coming, why not  take these ambulances since.  How long will it take to bring them up to code, the $25,000?

Chief Lewis – It wouldn’t be cost effective to do that, because it would exceed over half the value of the apparatus itself and I think you wouldn’t get the trade in value once you infected repairs at $25,000 per.  It would take a number of weeks to actually rebuild equipment itself, if that is what you’re asking.  My recommendation is not to rebuild

Charlotte LeVar – I understand what your recommendation is.  

Patricial Cox – Madam Chair, I do have a question for Chief Lewis.  Do you have, in the future, cause I’m not sure, Bill Hall just informed me that it might not be until October when we get the funding because of their fiscal year.  Is there any future ambulances that can be retired that that could cover versus, so that way you are not slowing your process.

Chief Lewis – Absolutely, this was not in consideration of the monies that Patricia Cox was just mentioning.  That was to replace the older transport units which will have 400,000 miles on them at the current time.  So the thought was is to replace the two 911 ambulances now, cause we still have a 90 day build time, and then use the federal grant money to purchase ambulances on the transport side.  

Paula Glidden – I did talk with John O’Brien last night and he mentioned how severe the trouble is on that one.  And that is more engine trouble t

 


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